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	<title>Comments on: Michael Medved: &#8220;Though Brutal, Slavery Wasn&#8217;t Genocidal&#8221;&#8211;Nice Door Prize</title>
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	<description>Politics and Commentary for the Thinking Person of Color--&#34;Better to sell an idea than to buy a lie!&#34;</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Boogie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Boogie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thank that this is insane! People ought to read the seminal work of Dr Joy DeGruy Leary in her book Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome and the work of Devin Fergus in Ghetto Tax, and the the works of Aminifu Harvey, Jerome Schiele, Leon Chenstang and countless other scholar who would adamantly disagree with Medved. Slavery as an institution was responsible for the deaths of millions of people of African decsent. The fact that we still are here today is a testimony to our fortitude, resiliency and tenacity. We gained little, in fact I contend that we may have lost more than we gained.  The Bible states that what does a man profiteth if he gains the world but loses his soul. I beleive that we were introduced to the European language customs, religion and culture, in turn we were forced to abandon if not subjucate our systems and beliefs. We were forced to perpetually feel inferior and if this feeling of inferority did not cause us to act barbaric and self destruct we became violent and struck out against a system that is subtle yet sinister. We as a people are survivors, forcing a group of people to live without dignity and comply or be killed is fool&#039;s paradigm. There truly is not a choice that a people with humanity make. It is sacrifice and should be honored as such. My ancestors gave their freedom, and their lives so that we can overcome this haunting tragedy.  My very existence is an extention of my great grand who toiled in the feilds, worked without compensation, denied the ability to read and to even procreate at will. They gave their dignity because they knew that the hope of the future lied within the children. WE must survive and demand justice for the heiniosu crimes that our people endured.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thank that this is insane! People ought to read the seminal work of Dr Joy DeGruy Leary in her book Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome and the work of Devin Fergus in Ghetto Tax, and the the works of Aminifu Harvey, Jerome Schiele, Leon Chenstang and countless other scholar who would adamantly disagree with Medved. Slavery as an institution was responsible for the deaths of millions of people of African decsent. The fact that we still are here today is a testimony to our fortitude, resiliency and tenacity. We gained little, in fact I contend that we may have lost more than we gained.  The Bible states that what does a man profiteth if he gains the world but loses his soul. I beleive that we were introduced to the European language customs, religion and culture, in turn we were forced to abandon if not subjucate our systems and beliefs. We were forced to perpetually feel inferior and if this feeling of inferority did not cause us to act barbaric and self destruct we became violent and struck out against a system that is subtle yet sinister. We as a people are survivors, forcing a group of people to live without dignity and comply or be killed is fool&#8217;s paradigm. There truly is not a choice that a people with humanity make. It is sacrifice and should be honored as such. My ancestors gave their freedom, and their lives so that we can overcome this haunting tragedy.  My very existence is an extention of my great grand who toiled in the feilds, worked without compensation, denied the ability to read and to even procreate at will. They gave their dignity because they knew that the hope of the future lied within the children. WE must survive and demand justice for the heiniosu crimes that our people endured.</p>
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		<title>By: Cobb</title>
		<link>http://thoughtmerchant.net/2007/10/06/michael-medved-though-brutal-slavery-wasnt-genocidal-nice-door-prize/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Cobb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s one to flip your wigs.

American slavery is the only pervasive system of slavery which did not come to an end through violent slave revolt. Instead, by political proxy, Africans were freed in America via a war they didn&#039;t start, and whose spoils they didn&#039;t collect. Therefore the greatest legacy of slavery in the descendents of African slaves in America is that their freedom can be purchased, not by blood, but by politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s one to flip your wigs.</p>
<p>American slavery is the only pervasive system of slavery which did not come to an end through violent slave revolt. Instead, by political proxy, Africans were freed in America via a war they didn&#8217;t start, and whose spoils they didn&#8217;t collect. Therefore the greatest legacy of slavery in the descendents of African slaves in America is that their freedom can be purchased, not by blood, but by politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Mali &#187; Blog Archives &#187; Roundup: Mamaroneck defeats Scarsdale 2-1; Clarkstown South defeats East Ramapo 7-0; White Plains defeats Mount Vernon ... (The Journal News)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mali &#187; Blog Archives &#187; Roundup: Mamaroneck defeats Scarsdale 2-1; Clarkstown South defeats East Ramapo 7-0; White Plains defeats Mount Vernon ... (The Journal News)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 05:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Medved: “Though Brutal, Slavery Wasn’t Genocidal”–Nice Door Prize  civilizations of West Africa such as the Mali Empire and thriving centers such as Timbuktu to simply [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Backyard Beacon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Backyard Beacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 04:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Medved can afford to be insouciant about his theory given his ratings on Townhall.com But applying the scientific method to his hypothesis reveals  as many as perhaps 440 questions or rather comments worth testing. 

I take the words of Maya Angelou in her essay &quot;Art in Africa,&quot;
&lt;blockquote&gt;The place of origin of Homo sapiens could not possibly have been stripped of its strongest sons and daughters for the purpose of satisfying greed unless one could name the place (and think of it) as not the First, or even Second, but the Third World.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medved can afford to be insouciant about his theory given his ratings on Townhall.com But applying the scientific method to his hypothesis reveals  as many as perhaps 440 questions or rather comments worth testing. </p>
<p>I take the words of Maya Angelou in her essay &#8220;Art in Africa,&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>The place of origin of Homo sapiens could not possibly have been stripped of its strongest sons and daughters for the purpose of satisfying greed unless one could name the place (and think of it) as not the First, or even Second, but the Third World.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 23:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Slavery was an ancient and universal institution, not a distinctly American innovation. 

Maybe so, but they took it to a new level, didn&#039;t they? 

2. Slavery existed only briefly, and in limited locales, in the history of the republic - involving only a tiny percentage of the ancestors of today&#039;s Americans. 

Um, the first slaves were brought to this country in, what, 1619, slavery wasn&#039;t officially abolished until 1865. That&#039;s over 200 years slavery existed on this soil. Add in another 100 years of Jim Crow, and America didn&#039;t &#039; officially&#039; become &#039; free&#039;, living up to its creed, until the Civil Rights Act of 1964 - a full 185 years after the &#039; official&#039; beginning of this country. Be picky and tack on the 150 years more before the shots fired on July 4th, and there we have, what, THREE HUNDRED THIRTY-FIVE YEARS of the official, codified in law, degredation of African people in The United States. 

That he so &#039;conveniently&#039; forgets about the 150 years before the &#039;official&#039; founding of this country, and therefore complete dismissing, disregarding, disrespecting the Africans who suffered through the inhumanity of slavery is appalling, but not surprising. 


3. Though brutal, slavery wasn&#039;t genocidal: live slaves were valuable but dead captives brought no profit. 

Now while he actually admits that MILLIONS of Africans were &#039;lost&#039; (MURDERED) during The Middle Passage, it&#039;s all an &#039; oh well&#039; from him. I get it now - MILLIONS of AFRICAN MURDERED....no big deal. MILLIONS of JEWS MURDERED - and that&#039;s a GENOCIDE.  I understand now.  

4. It&#039;s not true that the U.S. became a wealthy nation through the abuse of slave labor: the most prosperous states in the country were those that first freed their slaves. 


One of the benefits from the Reparations Movement, IMO, is the information that has been revealed about this country. Under every corner of this country&#039;s wealth, seeps out some sort of slave legacy. 

May I suggest Some Books:

Complicity: How the North Promoted, Prolonged and Profited From Slavery

New York Burning: Liberty, Slavery and Conspiracy in Eighteenth-Century Manhattan

Forced Into Glory: Abraham Lincoln&#039;s White Dream by Lerone Bennett

Before the Mayflower: A History of Black America by Lerone Bennett

5. While America deserves no unique blame for the existence of slavery, the United States mertis special credit for its rapid abolition.

Who the hell is he kidding. While &#039; slavery&#039; was abolished in 1865, this country didn&#039;t live up to its full creed ON PAPER until 1964 - what, another NINETY-NINE YEARS LATER. 

6. There is no reason to believe that today&#039;s African-Americans would be better off if their ancestors had remained behind in Africa. 

You know what, that&#039;s not for him or anyone else White to decide. It&#039;s so preposterous on its face, it&#039;s disgusting. 

This entire &#039; slavery wasn&#039;t really that bad&#039; bullshit has got to stop. No matter how many of these liars try and pretend that the BLACK HOLOCAUST DIDN&#039;T HAPPEN - IT DID. And, unlike &#039; bad old times&#039;, we Nigras today, aren&#039;t going to let this ignorant racist drivel go unchallenged. Despite Medved and his ilk, we&#039;re free, and that means you don&#039;t get to say shit like this without opposition. You don&#039;t get to define our past. We will NEVER FORGET Medved, and we sure in hell aren&#039;t going to let your ilk define OUR HISTORY. 

NEVER AGAIN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Slavery was an ancient and universal institution, not a distinctly American innovation. </p>
<p>Maybe so, but they took it to a new level, didn&#8217;t they? </p>
<p>2. Slavery existed only briefly, and in limited locales, in the history of the republic &#8211; involving only a tiny percentage of the ancestors of today&#8217;s Americans. </p>
<p>Um, the first slaves were brought to this country in, what, 1619, slavery wasn&#8217;t officially abolished until 1865. That&#8217;s over 200 years slavery existed on this soil. Add in another 100 years of Jim Crow, and America didn&#8217;t &#8216; officially&#8217; become &#8216; free&#8217;, living up to its creed, until the Civil Rights Act of 1964 &#8211; a full 185 years after the &#8216; official&#8217; beginning of this country. Be picky and tack on the 150 years more before the shots fired on July 4th, and there we have, what, THREE HUNDRED THIRTY-FIVE YEARS of the official, codified in law, degredation of African people in The United States. </p>
<p>That he so &#8216;conveniently&#8217; forgets about the 150 years before the &#8216;official&#8217; founding of this country, and therefore complete dismissing, disregarding, disrespecting the Africans who suffered through the inhumanity of slavery is appalling, but not surprising. </p>
<p>3. Though brutal, slavery wasn&#8217;t genocidal: live slaves were valuable but dead captives brought no profit. </p>
<p>Now while he actually admits that MILLIONS of Africans were &#8216;lost&#8217; (MURDERED) during The Middle Passage, it&#8217;s all an &#8216; oh well&#8217; from him. I get it now &#8211; MILLIONS of AFRICAN MURDERED&#8230;.no big deal. MILLIONS of JEWS MURDERED &#8211; and that&#8217;s a GENOCIDE.  I understand now.  </p>
<p>4. It&#8217;s not true that the U.S. became a wealthy nation through the abuse of slave labor: the most prosperous states in the country were those that first freed their slaves. </p>
<p>One of the benefits from the Reparations Movement, IMO, is the information that has been revealed about this country. Under every corner of this country&#8217;s wealth, seeps out some sort of slave legacy. </p>
<p>May I suggest Some Books:</p>
<p>Complicity: How the North Promoted, Prolonged and Profited From Slavery</p>
<p>New York Burning: Liberty, Slavery and Conspiracy in Eighteenth-Century Manhattan</p>
<p>Forced Into Glory: Abraham Lincoln&#8217;s White Dream by Lerone Bennett</p>
<p>Before the Mayflower: A History of Black America by Lerone Bennett</p>
<p>5. While America deserves no unique blame for the existence of slavery, the United States mertis special credit for its rapid abolition.</p>
<p>Who the hell is he kidding. While &#8216; slavery&#8217; was abolished in 1865, this country didn&#8217;t live up to its full creed ON PAPER until 1964 &#8211; what, another NINETY-NINE YEARS LATER. </p>
<p>6. There is no reason to believe that today&#8217;s African-Americans would be better off if their ancestors had remained behind in Africa. </p>
<p>You know what, that&#8217;s not for him or anyone else White to decide. It&#8217;s so preposterous on its face, it&#8217;s disgusting. </p>
<p>This entire &#8216; slavery wasn&#8217;t really that bad&#8217; bullshit has got to stop. No matter how many of these liars try and pretend that the BLACK HOLOCAUST DIDN&#8217;T HAPPEN &#8211; IT DID. And, unlike &#8216; bad old times&#8217;, we Nigras today, aren&#8217;t going to let this ignorant racist drivel go unchallenged. Despite Medved and his ilk, we&#8217;re free, and that means you don&#8217;t get to say shit like this without opposition. You don&#8217;t get to define our past. We will NEVER FORGET Medved, and we sure in hell aren&#8217;t going to let your ilk define OUR HISTORY. </p>
<p>NEVER AGAIN.</p>
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